[Trisquel-devel] Trisquel FR Wiki Team needs to solve wiki issues + T8 GNUpdf project

Fri Oct 14 23:13:19 CEST 2016

Hi David
& thank you  so much  for answering ;-)
All three of us wished to be added to the translators list but may HKR &
Mimmo_D. DDN confirm this however

can you suppress
https://trisquel.info/fr/wiki/encoder-de-la-musique
which has been replaced by 2 new manuals
can you suppress
https://trisquel.info/fr/wiki/comment-linstallation-de-logiciels-diff%C3%A8re-entre-trisquel-et-windows
which was a double creation but seeing it was a translated doc one
cannot suppress it

At the botom of the
https://trisquel.info/fr/wiki/liste-des-manuels-par-ordre-alphabétique
many new manuals do not go in alphabetical order( we cannot understand
why and cannot move them either)
we have kept the alphabetical order which is useful for users search
...
More links to come .. ;-)
----
You mention :

we've started some work towards making collaborating with
the website easier among other improvements

We found that using Framavox & Framaboard or Etherpads from Riseup or
Framapad had certain constraints
(heavy scripts, relying on external infrastructures & servers.

So we got interested in other solutions

a Gobby server would be great ,nevertheless would it be used enought ?
Etherpad ?

Drupal Groups or Organic Groups
https://www.drupal.org/project/og
https://groups.drupal.org/

This module would be very interesting for people wishing to work on the
documentation, & translations.They could communicate between
themselves, work on documentation together.It would permit more
visibility and a platform for those wishing to contribute.

I have not tested this myself and was planning in trying a Drupal 7
install on localhost soon
to see further (but i'm no specialist either...)

Of course setting this up may need more resources and extra
adminstartive work , someone kindly pointed out to me
it has certain advantages : this make all events on same  server,
greater protection, ease of use If you compare it With IRC or XMPP
you can open Discussion at any time And the user can reply at any time
,over time and many discussions ...

One of the main objectives is to have an area where people can discuss &
propose about contribution and not just ""coding"" or packages helpers.
The Forum is not suited for that.Basically one has to keep track of
events on a longer scale of time.

@Bientôt

Best Regards
Mangy Dog

On 14/10/2016 18:20, David Rodríguez wrote:
> Hello and first of all sorry for the long delay in answering this
> request. I think I can help with several of the issues you're facing,
> I've started by unpublishing the three pages at (C) and I'm looking into
> the issue of the unlisted French manual pages. Please tell me about the
> contributors who need the translator role and any other issues you need
> help with.
>
> Sorry again for the delay, we're all being quite busy lately and it's
> hard to keep up with all the pending needs for the project, but the
> situation will hopefully get better soon.
>
> By the way, we've started some work towards making collaborating with
> the website easier among other improvements, but this much needed
> process has also been delayed because of a shortage of time and
> admittedly a better organization.
>
> Best regards,
>
> David R.
>
> El dom, 09-10-2016 a las 00:16 +0200, pinmaritim at riseup.net escribió:
>> hi
>>
>> this mail is 3 weeks old 
>> in the meanwhile the number of added manuals to the french wiki are a
>> 1OO
>> Do you have meetings on the #dev-freenode ??
>> for discussion on other request 
>>
>> Best regards 
>> Mangy dog
>>
>> On 08/10/2016 22:56, universLibre at mailoo.org wrote:
>>
>>>> Dear Trisquel team (Aklis, Quidam, David, SirGrant)
>>>>
>>>> Here are below 3 request :
>>>>     
>>>> A brief Summary :
>>>>     
>>>> A. From a small team working on the French wiki that cannot solve
>>>> certain technical issues without a contact with the administrator of the
>>>> website Trisquel.info
>>>> B. From members who wish to be added as French translators
>>>> C. Last but not least from a member HKR who has a project to include a
>>>> Free Software introduction guide with examples inside the next release
>>>> of Trisquel 8 Flidas if this is possible and how he can submit this .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We have organized ourselves by using Framavox (1) along with a Jabber
>>>> Channel to enable friendly communication (& coordination) between
>>>> ourselves. We use framapad to make some collaboration (like translating
>>>> Freedom Friday (3) or to write this email) and in the future we plan to
>>>> use Framaboard (2) to list all the tasks that are needed to be done and
>>>> to have more visibility about our progress in time.
>>>>
>>>> Our goal is to reorganize the French wiki and set up a form of structure
>>>> that will permit a better way to encourage submissions in a user
>>>> friendly way.Translating other documentation & the Freedom Fridays
>>>> (already started) (3) will also be an objective .hopefully our team will
>>>> get bigger,and that it's structure will last in time.
>>>>
>>>> Our achievements since have been:
>>>>     
>>>> Changing the general organization of the layout into main themes with
>>>> sub menu with manuals (4)
>>>> Tracking some duplicate & obsolete information into the same manuals. (D)
>>>> Translating manuals page from englist to french (A) or vice-versa
>>>> Creating additional manual pages (B) 45 newly created pages since June
>>>> Listing all manual pages here (5) and (re)create rules to organized
>>>> them. (E)
>>>> Actually our main goal is to improve the French wiki which was lacking
>>>> very basic manual pages. (we expect to integrate French wiki page in
>>>> Trisquel 8 if it is enough ready and if the Trisquel main team allow us)
>>>>
>>>> Project GNUpdf :
>>>> Another project is to add content from the GNU web site (7) into the
>>>> Trisquel 8 OS iso for teaching free software values to new users (6)
>>>> even in Live mode very similar to what was done in gNewSense 2.3 Deltah
>>>> with an example Folder which contained a pdf of Richard Stallman,an RSS
>>>> ogg song & a small video (6)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Requests:
>>>> We need to be contact we the person who administrates the web site in
>>>> order to solve some technical issues we encountered and cannot solve
>>>> unless this can be done by the usual "Issues" channel
>>>>
>>>> As an exemple :
>>>> Please suppress this page (C) because we have to move them or there are
>>>> another manual about the same topic.
>>>> We also need all french manual adresses (0) because recently we discoved
>>>> that some manual are not listed any where.
>>>> Some of us wish to be added to the translators list
>>>>
>>>> Some observations made about the Trisquel website and enthusiastic people :
>>>>     
>>>> We read all the translator mailling list and often there are some
>>>> enthusiatic people that want to help by making translations on their
>>>> langage, or translate a part of the Trisquel web site (F) but at the end
>>>> it's trisquel site that block everything because their need to ask
>>>> administrator permissions (to change this or update that) which lack of
>>>> time to do that.
>>>>
>>>> have got a you a solution to solve this?
>>>>
>>>> Does Trisquel web site have his own git reposirory ? It's would be great
>>>> idea to improve it by just making a pull request (by using gitlab)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> HKR, Mangy Dog, Mimmo_D. DDN
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A :
>>>> https://trisquel.info/fr/wiki/thinkpenguin
>>>> B :
>>>> The list of the 45 newly added Manuels
>>>> https://framavox.org/d/qkZXKp9J/liste-des-nouvelles-contributions-de-mai-au-04-septembre-2016
>>>> C :
>>>> https://trisquel.info/fr/wiki/tous-les-manuels
>>>> https://trisquel.info/fr/wiki/se-connecter-et-utiliser-linternet
>>>> (changer le lien dans le wiki)
>>>> https://trisquel.info/fr/wiki/tor (aprés la fusion des deux manuels Tor
>>>> effacer ce lien)
>>>> D : https://trisquel.info/fr/node/1822
>>>> https://trisquel.info/fr/wiki/ajouter-un-nouveau-manuel-daide
>>>> https://trisquel.info/fr/wiki/versions
>>>> and some others
>>>> E : https://trisquel.info/fr/wiki/ajouter-un-nouveau-manuel-daide
>>>> F :
>>>> https://listas.trisquel.info/pipermail/trisquel-translators/2014-May/000064.html
>>>> 0 : https://trisquel.info/fr/wiki
>>>> 1 : we use it like a forum page, see
>>>> https://framavox.org/g/qvQjhlDZ/trisquel_frbut it's a decision tool like
>>>> loomio
>>>> 2 : example link
>>>> https://trisquel_fr.framaboard.org/?controller=board&action=readonly&token=fafd56d7c3dcfa1d65fa1f792f3cfb27a558428cb4166ae52937f593badf
>>>> 3 :
>>>> https://trisquel.info/fr/forum/traduction-des-rapports-davancements-publi%C3%A9s-les-vendredi-par-ruben-quidam
>>>> 4 : https://trisquel.info/fr/wiki/manuel
>>>> 5 :
>>>> https://trisquel.info/fr/wiki/liste-des-manuels-par-ordre-alphab%C3%A9tique
>>>> 6 :
>>>> https://trisquel.info/en/forum/explaination-about-free-software-mouvement-and-trisquel-trisquel-8-flidas
>>>> 7 : we want to convert gnu html pages to pdf. We are going to make that
>>>> for all language available for one page. Here a bash script to do that
>>>> :https://devel.trisquel.info/hkr/gnutopdf
>>>
>>>
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