[Trisquel-devel] Is Compiz-Reloaded feasible on Trisquel 12 GNU+Linux ecne?

[Luis Guzman]

En 26/08/25 11:14, kanvindan escribió:
>
> Hello everyone.
>
Hi Kalvin, thanks for the detailed report and for testing this on T12, 
welcome to the list.
>
>
> This is my first email to the Trisquel-devel list. I'm not aware of 
> the rules or etiquette for sending a message to the Trisquel devs 
> (couldn't find it on 
> https://listas.trisquel.info/mailman/listinfo/trisquel-devel), so 
> please excuse me.
>
>
> A month ago, I tried compiling Compiz-Reloaded 
> (https://gitlab.com/compiz) on Trisquel 12. After many days of 
> painstaking work, I was able to get it functional, but it was buggy. 
> Also, I found it conflicts with the mesa-vulkan-drivers package: it 
> would give me a empty MATE desktop when activating compiz. Removing 
> the vulkan drivers resolves the issue. For those who may not have 
> heard of Compiz-Reloaded, it's just a continuation of compiz 0.8. I 
> strongly prefer compiz 0.8 over the official compiz packages. For now, 
> it's too buggy to be considered stable; it would crash occasionally. 
> Compiz-Reloaded works fine on Trisquel 11 aramo. A sidenote: this was 
> tested in a virtual machine. I have yet to try on real hardware.
>
There may be an interaction here: the recent Mesa update 
(25.0.7-0ubuntu0.24.04.1) expects mesa-vulkan-drivers present to 
properly enable some EGL paths used by many GTK apps. Removing those 
drivers can avoid some issues, but may break other applications. Your 
observation with an empty MATE desktop when enabling Compiz suggests a 
Compiz-Reloaded/GLX/EGL compatibility problem with current Mesa rather 
than a Trisquel specific bug.

To help us understand it, could you share:

  * exact packages/versions involved (dpkg -l | grep -E
    'mesa|vulkan|compiz'),
  * GPU/driver info (glxinfo -B),
  * logs/messages when the empty desktop occurs (~/.xsession-errors,
    journalctl -b --grep=compiz),
  * a minimal reproduce (steps from a clean T12 VM), and whether bare
    metal shows the same?

> Is Compiz-Reloaded still feasible on Trisquel 12? And if I may ask, is 
> there a possibility of offering Compiz-Reloaded on the ecne 
> repositories in the future should it be considered feasible?
>
On feasibility and packaging: our team is small and, to keep maintenance 
sustainable, I would prefer Compiz-Reloaded to be maintained in Debian 
first (better integration and review). AFAICT the upstream line is 
around 0.8.18, with Debian carrying maintenance updates aligned to each 
release series[1], so "a newer major" isn't currently available. .

> I would like to hear your thoughts on this issue.
>
>
Given our focus on finishing Trisquel 12, we’re not planning to add new 
packages right now

That said, if you’re interested in driving this, a practical path is:

  * host a small repo with your code
  * publish some binary builds
  * invite testers here for feedback, and
  * if things stabilize, consider proposing it to Debian.

Once we clear the remaining T12 tasks, we can revisit based on the results.

> Thank you.
>
Thanks again for the effort and for bringing this up.
>
>
> Kalvin Dan
>
>
[1] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/compiz
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