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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">En 26/08/25 11:14, kanvindan escribió:<br>
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<p>Hello everyone.</p>
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Hi Kalvin, thanks for the detailed report and for testing this on
T12, welcome to the list.<br>
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<p>This is my first email to the Trisquel-devel list. I'm not
aware of the rules or etiquette for sending a message to the
Trisquel devs (couldn't find it on <a
href="https://listas.trisquel.info/mailman/listinfo/trisquel-devel"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://listas.trisquel.info/mailman/listinfo/trisquel-devel</a>),
so please excuse me.</p>
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<p>A month ago, I tried compiling Compiz-Reloaded (<a
href="https://gitlab.com/compiz" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://gitlab.com/compiz</a>)
on Trisquel 12. After many days of painstaking work, I was able
to get it functional, but it was buggy. Also, I found it
conflicts with the mesa-vulkan-drivers package: it would give me
a empty MATE desktop when activating compiz. Removing the vulkan
drivers resolves the issue. For those who may not have heard of
Compiz-Reloaded, it's just a continuation of compiz 0.8. I
strongly prefer compiz 0.8 over the official compiz packages.
For now, it's too buggy to be considered stable; it would crash
occasionally. Compiz-Reloaded works fine on Trisquel 11 aramo. A
sidenote: this was tested in a virtual machine. I have yet to
try on real hardware. <br>
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<p data-start="440" data-end="872">There may be an interaction here:
the recent Mesa update (25.0.7-0ubuntu0.24.04.1) expects
mesa-vulkan-drivers present to properly enable some EGL paths used
by many GTK apps. Removing those drivers can avoid some issues,
but may break other applications. Your observation with an empty
MATE desktop when enabling Compiz suggests a
Compiz-Reloaded/GLX/EGL compatibility problem with current Mesa
rather than a Trisquel specific bug.</p>
<p data-start="874" data-end="916">To help us understand it, could
you share:</p>
<ul>
<li data-start="874" data-end="916">exact packages/versions
involved (dpkg -l | grep -E 'mesa|vulkan|compiz'),</li>
<li data-start="874" data-end="916">GPU/driver info (glxinfo -B),</li>
<li data-start="874" data-end="916">logs/messages when the empty
desktop occurs (~/.xsession-errors, journalctl -b
--grep=compiz),</li>
<li>a minimal reproduce (steps from a clean T12 VM), and whether
bare metal shows the same?</li>
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<p>Is Compiz-Reloaded still feasible on Trisquel 12? And if I may
ask, is there a possibility of offering Compiz-Reloaded on the
ecne repositories in the future should it be considered
feasible?</p>
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<p>On feasibility and packaging: our team is small and, to keep
maintenance sustainable, I would prefer Compiz-Reloaded to be
maintained in Debian first (better integration and review). AFAICT
the upstream line is around 0.8.18, with Debian carrying
maintenance updates aligned to each release series[1], so "a newer
major" isn't currently available. .<br>
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<p>I would like to hear your thoughts on this issue. </p>
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<p>Given our focus on finishing Trisquel 12, we’re not planning to
add new packages right now</p>
<p>That said, if you’re interested in driving this, a practical path
is:</p>
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<li>host a small repo with your code</li>
<li>publish some binary builds</li>
<li>invite testers here for feedback, and</li>
<li>if things stabilize, consider proposing it to Debian.</li>
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<p>Once we clear the remaining T12 tasks, we can revisit based on
the results.</p>
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<p>Thank you.</p>
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Thanks again for the effort and for bringing this up.
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<p>Kalvin Dan</p>
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[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/compiz">https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/compiz</a><br>
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