From heimeborgia at protonmail.com  Sun Jun  1 00:13:08 2025
From: heimeborgia at protonmail.com (Heime)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2025 00:13:08 +0000
Subject: [Trisquel-devel] GTK failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
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Have installed Emacs 30.0 with Guix Package Manager on Trisquel.

But when I call "emacs" on terminal I get


hagbard at kup:~$ emacs
Gtk-Message: 12:08:47.631: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"


I did 

sudo apt install libcanberra-gtk-module libcanberra-gtk3-module -y

But the Gtk-Message still shows up

Yet apt gives

libcanberra-gtk-module is already the newest version (0.30-10ubuntu1.22.04.1).
libcanberra-gtk3-module is already the newest version (0.30-10ubuntu1.22.04.1).




From heimeborgia at protonmail.com  Sun Jun  1 11:09:40 2025
From: heimeborgia at protonmail.com (Heime)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2025 11:09:40 +0000
Subject: [Trisquel-devel] Pasword entering phase repeating itself
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Have been getting a recurring problem when starting Trisquel.  I get asked for my password.
But after I enter it correctly, Trisquel takes me back to the password entering phase
all over again.

And thus I cannot enter into my system at all.




From xavi92 at disroot.org  Sun Jun  1 16:43:55 2025
From: xavi92 at disroot.org (Xavier Del Campo Romero)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2025 18:43:55 +0200
Subject: [Trisquel-devel] dino-im segfaulting on Trisquel GNU/Linux 12.0
In-Reply-To: <e90ebf02-a0e5-4a45-9a1c-1c1ab16e7161@disroot.org>
References: <51979a45-0207-4a77-b0ac-2fcb5987b55c@disroot.org>
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Message-ID: <b321368e-c5a8-448b-843a-162ef9c24576@disroot.org>

Hi,

For the record, the same issue is also breaking the guitarix package. 
Whenever the "Pool" option is selected, Guitarix segfaults inside the 
same function in libpango.

Similarly to Dino, adding the missing null pointer check I mentioned 
earlier fixes the issue.

> the fact that it is choking on a font definition may suggest that the 
> client
> expects some specific font to be installed that is not installed (ie: the
> client package has an undeclared dependency on some font package) 

I think so, too, but I do not know which package it could be. Curiously 
enough, adding the null pointer not only fixes the issue, but also seems 
to introduce no regressions at all, neither on Dino or Guitarix.

Best regards,

Xavi

On 25/5/25 21:40, Xavier Del Campo Romero wrote:
> Hi Bill,
>
> Thank you for the quick reply. Find attached the complete (gzipped) 
> backtrace as a text file.
>
> Having another look at this issue, I can see 
> pango_language_get_default was not to blame, but still 
> |pango_font_default_has_char is passing a null pointer to 
> ||pango_coverage_get without null pointer checks.|
>
> I have also uploaded the (gzipped) core file into my web server:
>
> https://slcl.privatedns.org/public/b0a324c64bd97e1bc4c8e2b0d1067f9b
>
> Thank you again for your help.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Xavi
>
> On 25/5/25 21:20, bill-auger wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 May 2025 20:49:57 +0200 Xavier wrote:
>>> (gdb) bt
>>> #0? pango_coverage_get (coverage=0x0, index=84) at 
>>> ../pango/pango-coverage.c:183
>>> #1? 0x00007ffff6db44fc in pango_font_default_has_char 
>>> (font=<optimized out>, wc=84) at ../pango/fonts.c:1795
>> it would be helpful to show the complete un-edited back-trace - that 
>> incomplete
>> back-trace suggests that pango is not the problem - pango (stack 
>> frame #0 and
>> #1) has received a NULL from its caller (not shown) - more likely, 
>> the NULL
>> originates from the client (dino?) and may be evident in the lower 
>> stack frames
>>
>> the fact that it is choking on a font definition may suggest that the 
>> client
>> expects some specific font to be installed that is not installed (ie: 
>> the
>> client package has an undeclared dependency on some font package)
>
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From trisquel at metani.fr  Sun Jun  1 18:31:26 2025
From: trisquel at metani.fr (David Lecompte)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2025 20:31:26 +0200
Subject: [Trisquel-devel] Pasword entering phase repeating itself
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Message-ID: <166477815a76837c7dcbf31f13ee49180b703fb8.camel@metani.fr>

> Have been getting a recurring problem when starting Trisquel.? I get asked
> for my password.
> But after I enter it correctly, Trisquel takes me back to the password
> entering phase
> all over again.
> 
> And thus I cannot enter into my system at all.
> 

Did you try to log in from a terminal in text mode? (like Ctrl+Alt+F1).

If it works,?the problem might be solved by the addition to your .profile
that is described on https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/gnu-guix-package-manager.
I copy it here but my email client is certainly breaking lines;

cat >> ~/.profile << EOF
export
XDG_DATA_DIRS="/usr/local/share:/usr/share/\${XDG_DATA_DIRS:+:}\$XDG_DATA_DI
RS"
EOF

-- 
David Lecompte <trisquel at metani.fr>

From heimeborgia at protonmail.com  Sun Jun  1 18:38:57 2025
From: heimeborgia at protonmail.com (Heime)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2025 18:38:57 +0000
Subject: [Trisquel-devel] Pasword entering phase repeating itself
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On Sunday, June 1st, 2025 at 6:31 PM, David Lecompte <trisquel at metani.fr> wrote:

> > Have been getting a recurring problem when starting Trisquel. I get asked
> > for my password.
> > But after I enter it correctly, Trisquel takes me back to the password
> > entering phase
> > all over again.
> > 
> > And thus I cannot enter into my system at all.
> 
> 
> Did you try to log in from a terminal in text mode? (like Ctrl+Alt+F1).

I have not tried, no.  I got into a Trisquel 11 LIVE CD trying to accesss
the original system.  But because of the LVM setup I got stuck from doing
the next steps.  
 
> If it works, the problem might be solved by the addition to your .profile
> that is described on https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/gnu-guix-package-manager.
> I copy it here but my email client is certainly breaking lines;
> 
> cat >> ~/.profile << EOF
> 
> export
> XDG_DATA_DIRS="/usr/local/share:/usr/share/\${XDG_DATA_DIRS:+:}\$XDG_DATA_DI
> RS"
> EOF
> 
> --
> David Lecompte trisquel at metani.fr

From trisquel at metani.fr  Sun Jun  1 18:44:14 2025
From: trisquel at metani.fr (David Lecompte)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2025 20:44:14 +0200
Subject: [Trisquel-devel] Installing dependencies for latest emacs and
 gcc releases
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> Isn't ungoogled-chromium already available from Trisquel repositories? I
> installed it from there on Trisquel 12.
> 

Yes, I noticed but this is new in Trisquel 12, it isn't in Trisquel 11.


-- 
David Lecompte <trisquel at metani.fr>

From trisquel at metani.fr  Sun Jun  1 18:50:10 2025
From: trisquel at metani.fr (David Lecompte)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2025 20:50:10 +0200
Subject: [Trisquel-devel] Pasword entering phase repeating itself
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> 
> I have not tried, no.? I got into a Trisquel 11 LIVE CD trying to accesss
> the original system.? But because of the LVM setup I got stuck from doing
> the next steps.

If /dev/sda4 is ciphered, then 

sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sd4 cryptlvm

Then the volumes should be visible as /dev/mapper/vgtrisquel-root and
/dev/mapper/vgtrisquel-home, you can mount them as needed.

If the volumes don't show up at all, try

sudo vgscan
sudo vgchange -ay

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/LVM has good guidance on LVM.

> 
-- 
David Lecompte <trisquel at metani.fr>

From heimeborgia at protonmail.com  Sun Jun  1 19:05:53 2025
From: heimeborgia at protonmail.com (Heime)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2025 19:05:53 +0000
Subject: [Trisquel-devel] Installing dependencies for latest emacs and
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On Sunday, June 1st, 2025 at 6:44 PM, David Lecompte <trisquel at metani.fr> wrote:

> > Isn't ungoogled-chromium already available from Trisquel repositories? I
> > installed it from there on Trisquel 12.
> 
> 
> Yes, I noticed but this is new in Trisquel 12, it isn't in Trisquel 11.
 
For how long would Trisquel 12 be for testing?


 
> --
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> 
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From heimeborgia at protonmail.com  Sun Jun  1 19:08:59 2025
From: heimeborgia at protonmail.com (Heime)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2025 19:08:59 +0000
Subject: [Trisquel-devel] Pasword entering phase repeating itself
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On Sunday, June 1st, 2025 at 6:50 PM, David Lecompte <trisquel at metani.fr> wrote:

> > I have not tried, no. I got into a Trisquel 11 LIVE CD trying to accesss
> > the original system. But because of the LVM setup I got stuck from doing
> > the next steps.
> 
> 
> If /dev/sda4 is ciphered, then
> 
> sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sd4 cryptlvm
> 
> Then the volumes should be visible as /dev/mapper/vgtrisquel-root and
> /dev/mapper/vgtrisquel-home, you can mount them as needed.
> 
> If the volumes don't show up at all, try
> 
> sudo vgscan
> sudo vgchange -ay
> 
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/LVM has good guidance on LVM.

Should I do this (from Try LIVE System), or the other Ctrl+Alt+F1 way?
I decided not to encrypt the disk, but enabled the LVM option.
 
> --
> David Lecompte trisquel at metani.fr

From heimeborgia at protonmail.com  Sun Jun  1 21:16:05 2025
From: heimeborgia at protonmail.com (Heime)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2025 21:16:05 +0000
Subject: [Trisquel-devel] Pasword entering phase repeating itself
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On Monday, June 2nd, 2025 at 7:08 AM, Heime <heimeborgia at protonmail.com> wrote:

> 
> On Sunday, June 1st, 2025 at 6:50 PM, David Lecompte trisquel at metani.fr wrote:
> 
> > > I have not tried, no. I got into a Trisquel 11 LIVE CD trying to accesss
> > > the original system. But because of the LVM setup I got stuck from doing
> > > the next steps.
> > 
> > If /dev/sda4 is ciphered, then
> > 
> > sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sd4 cryptlvm
> > 
> > Then the volumes should be visible as /dev/mapper/vgtrisquel-root and
> > /dev/mapper/vgtrisquel-home, you can mount them as needed.
> > 
> > If the volumes don't show up at all, try
> > 
> > sudo vgscan
> > sudo vgchange -ay
> > 
> > https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/LVM has good guidance on LVM.
> 
> Should I do this (from Try LIVE System), or the other Ctrl+Alt+F1 way?
> I decided not to encrypt the disk, but enabled the LVM option.

David

Have done Ctrl+Alt+F1 procedure with the modification to ~/.profile

A procedure that has solved the problem.  I can now get the the installed
Trisquel 11 System using my user name and password.

Could Trisquel automate the process when one uses the Guix Package Management Tools.
It has recently become very cumbersome to set up a Trisquel System for development 
work.  My basic system involves having recent versions of GCC, Emacs, TexLive, and 
Python.

In practical terms, after installing a new Trisquel System I always have to

1. Increase root partition size.
2. Install Guix Package Manager.
3. Install GCC, EMACS, TexLive, and Python; all via guix install.
4. Perform the changes to ~/.profile

Installing Emacs and TexLive directly from the sources have recently become so 
labourious that the only solution for me is to use "guix install".

GCC is currently manageable and usually get things done in a few hours without 
a guix install.

Felicitations


 
> > --
> > David Lecompte trisquel at metani.fr

From aaric at posteo.net  Mon Jun  2 06:29:17 2025
From: aaric at posteo.net (Eric)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2025 06:29:17 +0000
Subject: [Trisquel-devel] triskel update-manager
Message-ID: <5a429c76c38e83d9138738fa6977f530@posteo.net>

How about instead of the Gnome program (update-manager) to update 
Triskel we use plasma-discover? In the menu after it is installed, it is 
called Discover in the System sub menu.

At present there is annoying error message about a config file not being 
present whether you put one there or not when we use update-manager or 
as it is called Software Updater in the menu.

Synaptic is okay, but there is another package manager called apper. 
Apper doesn't seem able to get privileges.

I don't think we support snap packages though. 
plasma-discover-backend-snap is available in Trisquel 11 and 12.

"Description: Discover software management suite - Snap backend
  Discover is a graphical software manager for the Plasma workspace.
  It helps users easily and quickly find applications and other software
  they might want to install.

  "This package contains a backend for the Ubuntu Core Snappy application
  bundling system."

From ark at switnet.org  Mon Jun  2 07:02:41 2025
From: ark at switnet.org (Luis Guzman)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2025 01:02:41 -0600
Subject: [Trisquel-devel] triskel update-manager
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En 02/06/25 00:29, Eric escribi?:
> How about instead of the Gnome program (update-manager) to update 
> Triskel we use plasma-discover? In the menu after it is installed, it 
> is called Discover in the System sub menu.

Discover requires some heavy customization, lacks support to manage some 
features, and also adds plenty of third party software repos, at some 
point when we have a more robust development team we might be able to 
take over more customization to fit all flavors tools, so far we try to 
recycle work that works correctly.

>
> At present there is annoying error message about a config file not 
> being present whether you put one there or not when we use 
> update-manager or as it is called Software Updater in the menu.
That's an issue, please submit a bug and add details on it.
>
> Synaptic is okay, but there is another package manager called apper. 
> Apper doesn't seem able to get privileges.
>
> I don't think we support snap packages though. 
> plasma-discover-backend-snap is available in Trisquel 11 and 12.

The Trisquel snap discovery backend/package (and others not recommended) 
removes the content from the package and only is used to avoid breaking 
the current build, it sure requires more work but so far those packages 
are harmless.

As said before discovery might take more resources to make it work as 
desired than we can provide for now.

>
> "Description: Discover software management suite - Snap backend
> ?Discover is a graphical software manager for the Plasma workspace.
> ?It helps users easily and quickly find applications and other software
> ?they might want to install.
>
> ?"This package contains a backend for the Ubuntu Core Snappy application
> ?bundling system."
>
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