[Trisquel-devel] Is Compiz-Reloaded feasible on Trisquel 12 GNU+Linux ecne?

[kanvindan]

Sorry about the late reply. I didn't realize I sent my last response to 
the wrong address. Anyways, long story short. I compiled compiz-reloaded 
from the gitlab repository again, and I can confirm 100% that it's 
working on ecne now. The issue of the blank screen is gone, and works 
even with the vulkan drivers installed. The only issue is slow 
performance. I think I sort of fixed it by having the 20-intel.conf file 
in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ directory. I believe the lower framerate is 
expected for compiz 0.8, since it's been using dated C++ code for over 
20 years.

Kalvin

On 2025-08-26 21:28, Luis Guzman wrote:

> En 26/08/25 11:14, kanvindan escribió:
> 
>> Hello everyone.
> Hi Kalvin, thanks for the detailed report and for testing this on T12, 
> welcome to the list.
> 
>> This is my first email to the Trisquel-devel list. I'm not aware of 
>> the rules or etiquette for sending a message to the Trisquel devs 
>> (couldn't find it on 
>> https://listas.trisquel.info/mailman/listinfo/trisquel-devel), so 
>> please excuse me.
>> 
>> A month ago, I tried compiling Compiz-Reloaded 
>> (https://gitlab.com/compiz) on Trisquel 12. After many days of 
>> painstaking work, I was able to get it functional, but it was buggy. 
>> Also, I found it conflicts with the mesa-vulkan-drivers package: it 
>> would give me a empty MATE desktop when activating compiz. Removing 
>> the vulkan drivers resolves the issue. For those who may not have 
>> heard of Compiz-Reloaded, it's just a continuation of compiz 0.8. I 
>> strongly prefer compiz 0.8 over the official compiz packages. For now, 
>> it's too buggy to be considered stable; it would crash occasionally. 
>> Compiz-Reloaded works fine on Trisquel 11 aramo. A sidenote: this was 
>> tested in a virtual machine. I have yet to try on real hardware.
> 
> There may be an interaction here: the recent Mesa update 
> (25.0.7-0ubuntu0.24.04.1) expects mesa-vulkan-drivers present to 
> properly enable some EGL paths used by many GTK apps. Removing those 
> drivers can avoid some issues, but may break other applications. Your 
> observation with an empty MATE desktop when enabling Compiz suggests a 
> Compiz-Reloaded/GLX/EGL compatibility problem with current Mesa rather 
> than a Trisquel specific bug.
> 
> To help us understand it, could you share:
> 
> * exact packages/versions involved (dpkg -l | grep -E 
> 'mesa|vulkan|compiz'),
> * GPU/driver info (glxinfo -B),
> * logs/messages when the empty desktop occurs (~/.xsession-errors, 
> journalctl -b --grep=compiz),
> * a minimal reproduce (steps from a clean T12 VM), and whether bare 
> metal shows the same?
> 
>> Is Compiz-Reloaded still feasible on Trisquel 12? And if I may ask, is 
>> there a possibility of offering Compiz-Reloaded on the ecne 
>> repositories in the future should it be considered feasible?
> 
> On feasibility and packaging: our team is small and, to keep 
> maintenance sustainable, I would prefer Compiz-Reloaded to be 
> maintained in Debian first (better integration and review). AFAICT the 
> upstream line is around 0.8.18, with Debian carrying maintenance 
> updates aligned to each release series[1], so "a newer major" isn't 
> currently available. .
> 
>> I would like to hear your thoughts on this issue.
> 
> Given our focus on finishing Trisquel 12, we're not planning to add new 
> packages right now
> 
> That said, if you're interested in driving this, a practical path is:
> 
> * host a small repo with your code
> * publish some binary builds
> * invite testers here for feedback, and
> * if things stabilize, consider proposing it to Debian.
> 
> Once we clear the remaining T12 tasks, we can revisit based on the 
> results.
> 
>> Thank you.
> Thanks again for the effort and for bringing this up.
> 
>> Kalvin Dan
> [1] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/compiz
> 
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