[Freedom-misc] youtube-dl through tor?
mason at masonhock.com
mason at masonhock.com
Mon Jun 1 20:18:14 CEST 2020
> I have never had an issue with Invidious instances
That is because there are human workers solving CAPTCHAs for pennies to keep
the large Invidious instances working.
> To my mind running an invidious instance would make sense if the instance
serves many people. A single person running a single instance for the same
single client is simply creating bloat on one's own machine (and still being
connected to Google).
It's not for a single client. It runs on my VPS, and I use it with multiple
devices. I am also beginning to share it with some other people, though I
want to increase the amount of traffic slowly to see how much is possible to
get away with getting flagged by Google.
> What do you mean "my" use case? youtube-dl, avideo, hypervideo all do the
same: download videos. What other use cases are there?
By "your use case" I mean downloading YouTube videos from a specific site (an
Invidious onion instance) that is not supported by youtube-dl and probably
only works at all with avideo as a side effect of YouTube support. Other use
cases are downloading videos from YouTube or from the numerous other sites
that youtube-dl supports. youtube-dl support for YouTube and these other
sites breaks all the time due to API changes. Only up-to-date versions of
youtube-dl work reliably, so avideo is not better for these use cases.
> If your goal is to simply avoid Youtube's JS perhaps you could rather use
https://github.com/trizen/youtube-viewer as a client.
My goal is a more free and just society. Avoiding YouTube's JS and tracking
and (equally importantly) helping other people to do the same is a very small
part of that. I used to use and recommend youtube-viewer, but when Invidious
was created switched to using and recommending that because it has fewer
obstacles to adoption. Exploiting virtual sweatshop labor does not result in
a more free and just society, so when I learned that the large Invidious
instances rely on this I began using my own instance.
> Is it missing any features? Does it have any bugs which are fixed upstream?
Yes, many. You can check the last several years of youtube-dl's commit
history to see what has changed. It sounds like these missing features and
bugs have not impacted the way you use avideo though. I only brought up the
idea of reviving avideo because you said "Thanks for the info about
hypervideo. It might be a better alternative as it seems kept up to date with
the upstream version", which led me to think you might be interested in a
more up-to-date avideo given that hypervideo did not work for you.
I'll check this thread again to see if you have any other comments, but I
otherwise don't see a need to continue this discussion. Your first comment
answered the OP's question, and I only replied in order to understand why you
reccommended avideo, which you have now explained. Thanks.
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